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Post by DerekReed on Aug 19, 2017 13:37:57 GMT
I too have been researching the "rules" for the award of the Dhofar GSM. During my time in Masirah (Nov74-July 75) as an SAC (AATC) I can well recall having made many trips to Salalah and other "bases" within the region, assisting on "days off" - what else was there to do, in various tasks both directly trade related and additional duties. Given there were tasks carried out at Masirah in support of Salalah , let alone those carried out directly in "Dhofar" by many service personnel it strikes me that the somewhat rigid application of Salalah only is inappropriate. The British Armed Forces were in Oman to support the Omani government across a wide spectrum of activities. The GSM is a recognition of contributing to a campaign effort in country and all serving in OMAN at that period surely ought be allowed to qualify.
Just a thought. Nice to have stumbled across this web site by the way. I thought I recognised the name Andy Blyth, when I bumped into a young guy at RAF Oakhanger, but had forgotten the guy I met on Masirah many, many, years ago... Now it makes sense. I was there about the same time (Nov 74 to Aug 75), but can't remember the exact dates. I do remember getting strange looks for wearing a parka back in the UK in August, when everybody else was wandering around in t-shirts... I was working in a little room inside the commcen, normally locked in on my own, but met up with ATC and GRSF guys when I got out into daylight. The names Dave Cox and Al Curtis might ring a bell, and I'm still in touch with them through Facebook... As it's a guest account, I suppose there is only a small chance that you'll ever pop back and see this, but if you ever do, it would be great to hook up... |
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Post by Air Despatch Rob on Oct 13, 2017 17:35:05 GMT
With regard to the award of the bar ‘Dofar’ for your GSM. Firstly it is quite possible that any service at RAF Masirah would not include any attachments or trips to incountry, given the nature of the ‘war’. It wasn’t called the secret war for nothing. I was quite lucky as my AD log book listed all the airstrips I dropped to or unloaded at, so clearly their was a record of incountry service. Which as a Solidier flying sorties, is quite funny given that ‘ex-crabs’are having difficulties in proving the qualification period. Secondly there is a second ‘scandal’ in that if you saw service incountry between 1969 and 1976, then you were also entitled to one or both of the Omani Service award (the Piece Medal and the Victory Medal, which also entitles the wearer to an additional award of a crown centred on the Victory Medal, providing the awarded was incountry for part of their service) I say scandal as if you try and get a back dated award, you will find that the SAS system (for the lack of a respectful alternative) doesn’t give any of those awards unless you were actually BATT and by default SAS. Of course all the balcony boys won Oman all on their own, didn’t need any of the ammo resuply runs, not compo and fresh and as for Mail well they clearly didn’t need any of that.
Best of luck with the campaign to get the Dofar Bar for the GSM, for service on the Island. God what a yellow snow hole that place was. Don’t know how you managed longer than the 4 months did 1975.
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Post by Baz on Nov 4, 2017 17:18:32 GMT
Does anyone know of flight Sergeant John Rutter? Served in Masirah ?
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Post by Mike Matthews on Dec 28, 2017 10:36:44 GMT
I was with the Wessex helicopters that were attached to SOAF at Salalah in 1974 and we were awarded the Omani GSM. Quite rightly, that meant we were not entitled to the UK GSM. As an aside, on the first two parades that I was on back in UK, the Big Nebby chose me to speak to. You know the feeling, it's bad enough having to be on a parade but the last thing you want is the Gold-Braided, multi-ringed senior zobbit talking to you!! So the medal-ribbon was removed and the medal hidden in a dark place until just recently when I spotted the Sid Pass's Dhofar page on Facebook!
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Post by Tony Climie on Jan 18, 2018 20:07:11 GMT
I was a techie attached to 51(F) Squadron, RAF Regiment on detachment to Muharraq in 1968 when trouble blew up at RAF Salalah. As the only "force" in the gulf area at that time we were flown down to defend the airfield. I volunteered to stay on for a furthe few months since the guy who would have relieved me, was married. On returning to the UK we were briefed that we hadn't been in Salalah as the "war" down there was secret - the government of the day not wanting the general public to know of our support for the area. My service record, obtained a few years ago shows only that I served six months at Muharram!! It's possible that that's the readon many of you have no record on your files of being ther? Maybe a bit old hat now but best regards anyway,
Tony Climie,.
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Post by Ian Bowerman on Nov 14, 2018 0:12:37 GMT
Personnel on secondment in the Dhofar region for one year or more from 1976 to 1983 would fit the criteria for the Oman Peace Medal.This includes people contracted to SOAF at Thumrait and Salalah. Airwork Services ground crew may also entitled to apply for this medal.
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Post by techrep52 on Nov 18, 2018 19:10:39 GMT
Hi everyone,my name is Paul Houghton,I joined the RAF at 17 in Sept 1969 and my first posting from trade training as ground electronics mechanic was Masirah.From Masirah I was seconded to Salalah,servicing the radios in the vehicles and testing the radio equipment in the the sultan's palace in Salalah town.I was there when the Sultan's son shot him and deposed him and I guarded him in the medical quarters.Over the next day there were concerns about the camp being attacked by rebels and we had to guard the perimeters.I had some really good photos of the camp,especially the so called missile,which was only oil drums ,but looked good from a distance.Unfortunately, I can no longer find these having moved house and other circumstances.I also,having looked at my service record,find that I didn't exist at Salalah.My memory of people I served with is pretty poor as names go but I can still remember faces.I also wondered whether I was entitled to a medal.If anybody remembers me or can enlighten me,it would be greatly appreciated.
Paul(scouse)Houghton.
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Post by charlie cameron carruthers on Jun 28, 2019 10:51:43 GMT
I too have been researching the "rules" for the award of the Dhofar GSM. During my time in Masirah (Nov74-July 75) as an SAC (AATC) I can well recall having made many trips to Salalah and other "bases" within the region, assisting on "days off" - what else was there to do, in various tasks both directly trade related and additional duties. Given there were tasks carried out at Masirah in support of Salalah , let alone those carried out directly in "Dhofar" by many service personnel it strikes me that the somewhat rigid application of Salalah only is inappropriate. The British Armed Forces were in Oman to support the Omani government across a wide spectrum of activities. The GSM is a recognition of contributing to a campaign effort in country and all serving in OMAN at that period surely ought be allowed to qualify.
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Post by charlie cameron carruthers on Jun 28, 2019 10:59:38 GMT
Regards Dhofar GSM I served both at RAF Masirah (72/73) and RAF Steamer Point (Aden 63/65) and in Aden I acquired the GSM for RADFAN & SOUTH ARABIA as we were back up to operations in RADFAN even altho` we never set foot in the place and I think the same should be given to the Masirah Guys who served during the Dhofar War as we also were back up to Ops down there. Now the new Operational Service Medal is being given without clasp to people who served in Cyprus and were not in Syria and Iraq last year (2018) - there must be a perogative there !!!
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Post by Peter hall on Nov 12, 2019 20:17:46 GMT
Regards Dhofar GSM I served both at RAF Masirah (72/73) and RAF Steamer Point (Aden 63/65) and in Aden I acquired the GSM for RADFAN & SOUTH ARABIA as we were back up to operations in RADFAN even altho` we never set foot in the place and I think the same should be given to the Masirah Guys who served during the Dhofar War as we also were back up to Ops down there. Now the new Operational Service Medal is being given without clasp to people who served in Cyprus and were not in Syria and Iraq last year (2018) - there must be a perogative there !!! |
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Post by Peter Hall on Jun 1, 2020 19:07:01 GMT
Completed two tours in Salalah 73 and 74 with the RAF Regiment, spent lots of time on the hedgehogs and received the GSM, however we were informed that the Sultan wanted everybody to receive the Dhofar Star but the british government would not allow this as his head was on the medal and not our Queen. We were also informed that the medal would be recorded on our service records as being awarded but would not receive it. I note this did not happen, has anyone else any info on this and should we put up a fight and try and get this award and medal for those who earned it? |
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Post by Dave Warwick on Nov 14, 2021 21:43:28 GMT
With regard to the award of the bar ‘Dofar’ for your GSM. Firstly it is quite possible that any service at RAF Masirah would not include any attachments or trips to incountry, given the nature of the ‘war’. It wasn’t called the secret war for nothing. I was quite lucky as my AD log book listed all the airstrips I dropped to or unloaded at, so clearly their was a record of incountry service. Which as a Solidier flying sorties, is quite funny given that ‘ex-crabs’are having difficulties in proving the qualification period. Secondly there is a second ‘scandal’ in that if you saw service incountry between 1969 and 1976, then you were also entitled to one or both of the Omani Service award (the Piece Medal and the Victory Medal, which also entitles the wearer to an additional award of a crown centred on the Victory Medal, providing the awarded was incountry for part of their service) I say scandal as if you try and get a back dated award, you will find that the SAS system (for the lack of a respectful alternative) doesn’t give any of those awards unless you were actually BATT and by default SAS. Of course all the balcony boys won Oman all on their own, didn’t need any of the ammo resuply runs, not compo and fresh and as for Mail well they clearly didn’t need any of that. Best of luck with the campaign to get the Dofar Bar for the GSM, for service on the Island. God what a yellow snow hole that place was. Don’t know how you managed longer than the 4 months did 1975. |
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